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The minister, the imam and the handshake

by Robert Chesal and the RN Internet desk

22-11-2004

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Minister Rita Verdonk offers her hand to an imam, who respectfully told her that he could not shake a woman's hand (tv footage)
Dutch Immigration and Integration Minister Rita Verdonk has told Muslim clerics in the Netherlands that they need to assimilate into Dutch society.

The minister, a member of the liberal-conservative VVD party, delivered her message in person at the weekend when she attended a meeting with some 50 imams, saying that she wished to continue her dialogue with them next year, only then in the Dutch language. She also called for the creation of a course in the Netherlands to train new imams.

However, it was just one aspect of her meeting with the Muslim clerics that grabbed most of the headlines, namely her attempt to shake hands with one of the imams. The handshake was refused.

In this interview with Radio Netherlands, political scientist Andre Krouwel of the Amsterdam's Free University says Ms Verdonk must have known her gesture would not be returned, and argues that she was playing politics, and for all the world to see:

"It's very clear that this government, or part of this government, at least her party the VVD, the party for freedom and democracy, has left the line of the multicultural society, and is now really confronting the Islamic part of the Dutch population with a more integrative model. People should adapt to Dutch society, should speak the language, should shake women's hands. So, clearly there's a huge shift in policy."

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Picture of the current Dutch cabinet upon its installation in 2003 (Queen Beatrix appears in the front middle of this photo, next to PM Jan Peter Balkenende, standing third from the left).

The current three-party Dutch coalition government is led by Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende of the Christian Democrat CDA. The cabinet comprises his own CDA, with eight minister posts, the liberal-conservative VVD with six ministerial positions, and junior partner the centre-left democrats of D'66, which holds two cabinet portfolios.

RN: "You just talked about one of the more commented upon things that happened in this meeting. There was quite a commotion when she tried to shake the hand of a Muslim cleric, and the imam refused to shake her hand. Why did she insist that he do so?"

"Clearly, she tried to make a point. I am sure that since the Dutch government has been contact with imams and with people who are of Islamic convictions before, they've of course encountered imams who don't want to shake hand with women. So, I think she wanted to make a political point, saying 'you see, these people are not integrated, they don't speak my language, they don't know that women are equal to men.' I think she was trying to make a political statement, and a very forceful one, because this imam cannot shake the hand of a woman because of his religion."

RN: "Strict Muslims are not the only ones who can't shake hands with the opposite sex, are they?"

"No, exactly, and the whole idea in the Netherlands always used to be that you respect other people's convictions, you don't try to convert people to your convictions. You try to basically not force your own ideas and visions of society on others. And clearly that path of a sort of consensus democracy, whereby you give each group autonomy within its own circle, has gone, at least for the VVD."

RN: "You are really emphasizing the role of this one party. There has been talk of split in the cabinet between those seeking reconciliation and those who want confrontation. Is this a deepening split now?"

"It is splitting, dividing the government, because the other main party in the government is the Christian Democrat party, who of course cannot go down this confrontation route. They can't say all religious groups should now lose their autonomy, cannot have their own schools, should be integrated into Dutch society and all be the same. They can't say that because also there are very conservative Protestants who don't allow women access, for example, to politics. There's even a party with two seats in parliament that sort of argues that women have a secondary role in society, and do not allow women to have power in politics within their own party. So if the Christian Democrats go in that direction, they will lose part of their own electorate and, of course, they will lose the right to funding for their own Christian schools."

Listen to the interview with Andre Krouwel: 3'40   

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RN: "Immigration Minister Verdonk has been insisting on dialogue with the imams, and also to speak in the Dutch language. But this whole meeting at the weekend, how do you think that the Muslim community will have received her message?"

"Clearly it is for them more evidence that this government, or at least part of this government, is on a collision course, and wants to make the integration issue or immigration issue - these things are constantly confused - the main issue in the next elections, which might come soon, because there are problems within the government, and the VVD seems to be on a constant campaign against Islam. And I think it is because Pim Fortuyn, the politician who was shot in the 2002 election, showed that with this issue you can gain 20 to 30 seats in a 150-seat parliament. Clearly this is an issue that you can use, and is politically very advantageous to political parties. And the VVD which has lost a lot of seats and is looking very bad in the opinion polls are, of course, trying to get these seats back. And I think that is exactly what Verdonk is doing, she is doing politics and she is doing it very well, I think, and we will soon see electoral success coming to the VVD."